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Wayne caught up with Josh Baldwin to talk about 3 new projects he’s involved with this year: His latest album ‘Live At Church’, Bethel’s new album ‘Revival’s In The Air’ and his upcoming new project ‘Evidence’.
Last time we chatted, the world looked very much different. It was towards the end of last year, we talked about a new song that you just released and a whole bunch of stuff which was going on. Then some little thing called covid 19 hit. Now, in amongst covid 19, Josh, you decided to release an E.P. called Live at church. I’m sure the irony is not lost on you with the title of this particular release.
No, not at all. I will say we did plan to do that just before the quarantine happened. So not that anything about it is prophetic, but maybe it is. I don’t know. I’m sure the Lord will try to say something at all times and every day. I’m working on a new album right now of all new songs, and I’m in the studio right now working on that.
While I was doing that, I just kept thinking about these older songs that I’ve had that we sing in our church at Bethel all the time. And I just thought, they’ve never been, I’d never got any live versions out of them. I’ve just been sitting on these versions. I was just talking to my wife and I was like “I just I would love to release this before I step into this new season with new songs. There’s still those songs back there that I would love to just release these live moments”.
Maybe two or three weeks into working on that, because when the quarantine came and so we knew we’re all going to be home. And so then we were thinking about the release date. At first I was like, “wow, I’m releasing a live at church album and no one’s at church and no one’s actually live at church. They felt even more special to me because when I listen to them now, the part of me that really just misses, like being with my church family, being together as a congregation, corporately worshipping. I hear that in those moments and those songs. And it makes the songs even more special to me because it does remind me of those times. And then and they are coming again. Obviously the Lord is doing something special right now at each home that couldn’t happen, have had this not happened.
One of the songs that’s on the on the E.P. I want to touch on, there’s an Aussie flavour there. You’ve taken Hillsong United Song, ‘Came to my Rescue’ and really made it your own. Why this was one of the ones, that in amongst a whole catalogue of music you could have put on live at the church, that this was one of them?
It’s become like one of my top two favourite moments of that whole album. That moment was actually recorded at our Bethel Worship School that we have every summer. And I just I had done it once before when I was leading the song, my song ‘Fountains’. I remember one Sunday night in particular where I just out of that song. I just felt like we needed to go somewhere else. And the first song that came on my mind was that old Hillsong United song ‘Came to my Rescue’. And it just worked. It worked with the chords. It worked with, just the whole spirit of that song and the moment they were in. And so I just went with it and, you know, praying that I would remember all the words as we went. And luckily, everyone knows that song. So it’s the ones that I forgot, everyone just sing anyway.
I remember being such a special moment. And so when we were actually leading worship for the worship school, like a few months later, I was doing that song again and I just remember that moment was like, you know, I’m just going to go into this moment again. And so I went into it again. And, um, yeah, it’s just it it’s such an amazing song. And at that moment in particular, I just felt like you said, we’re able to make it our own and great songs like that, it doesn’t matter how old they are, they still ring true.
Bethel, Elevation Worship, Hillsong, one or two others very much leading the charge, if you will, when it comes to contemporary worship across the globe. Does that kind of mantle ever become daunting?
I think it can. I think it definitely can. The weight, that I’m sure Brian and Joan, some are leaders at Bethel carry on them. It’s heavier and probably more consistent than anything I would carry personally. But just being on a team, there’s definitely that sense of responsibility for like what I was saying earlier, to hear from the Lord for what’s next in our music and not just throwing out just anything, but really trying to hear what is next. What is he doing? Hillsong definitely one of the forerunners of not only just putting out great music and great worship, but also trying to shoot ahead and almost be prophetic in what you’re writing and saying. And it’s our pastor Johnson says all the time “Write songs and speak to the church and sing them into where he would like to see the church 10 years from now”.
I love that idea. When you step back and think about that and think about it without realising that maybe you had the help of the Holy Spirit and Jesus, then that can be very daunting. But the minute I just think about where I was and where the Lord has brought me and what he’s done for me and that I just need to sit here and just it’s just about my heart of worship towards Him and I’m just going to try to write what I feel like he gives me. It brings that weight off. I just give it to Him and then we can just do what we do and not worry about all that.
I love being a part of something big that’s like this. But also, I mean, we loved all the small worship movements that are around that are just the ones that are popping up here and there. Some of those songs, actually, minister me to me more than any song. I love those moments.
So as a songwriter, do you kind of know when you’ve got one of those smash hit songs?
Yeah. I think sometimes yes and no. I wish I always knew what was going to resonate with people, but there’s definitely those songs, Let the Redeemed was definitely a song that felt special. There’s something nostalgic about it in a good way, feels like something that people probably will feel like they have been singing for years. Even though this is a newer song. It is from scripture, that always helps. I think my song ‘Stand in your Love’. I think the minute we wrote that and we sang that, recorded it down on my phone, just a bad voice memo of it, I felt something on it, and I knew this is a special song.
But then there’s been songs that I didn’t think, the song Fountains that is on my Live album that we went into, came to my rescue. That song just felt like a sweet moment with me in the Lord. And I was like, this is just going to be, you know, a song on my album that I hope people enjoy, but I enjoy it. And it’s kind of just for me in some ways. And then it’s a song that we probably lead the most out of my songs I’ve written in the last three or four years. That’s probably up there in the top two songs that we lead the most at our church. I never would have thought it would have caught on like that.
So, you know, I think it’s both ways. I really have a good idea. I feel like I know. And then other times I don’t. Then sometimes I feel like I know. And I think it’s going be a smash hit, and no one cares for it.
A big thanks to Josh for taking the time to catch up with us! God bless!